Ammunition isn’t the cheapest, but TulAmmo offers cheap steel-cased ammunition for about 24 cents per round – that’s a solid price for plinking ammo! AUTO-ORDNANCE M1 CARBINE. The bolt will stay open when you push down on the little button, unlike many arsenal-redone carbines. Ammunition isn’t the cheapest, but TulAmmo offers cheap steel-cased ammunition for about 24 cents per round – that’s a solid price for plinking ammo! We suggest you act soon, particularly if you want one from the CMP. The slide on the rear sight was frozen until we oiled it and worked it a bit. However, if you’re qualified, and if you hurry, you may be able to get a decent carbine for about $420-675, through the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) sales. They were $65.00 and I could have kicked my self that I only picked up one. You can get them with different sights, trigger mods, and they now offer a paratrooper stock option. So they're a direct competitor to the new Inland Manufacturing, LLC. SUBSCRIBE . If you’re looking to add a 1911 to your gun cabinet but don’t want to spend all your dough in the process, foreign 1911 makers — like Rock Island Armory, Taurus and American Tactical Imports – are your best bets. Another shot minute of house. Auto-Ordnances rifle had an extractor problem. The walnut stock had fewer dings than the other CMP rifle, largely the luck of the draw, we’re sure. To our surprise, the Fulton and one of the CMP carbines did not like the old original Mil-Spec ball ammo at all. We also would have preferred the adjustable rear sight, which we believe most shooters will want also. The Underwood (CMP-1) had a sheet-metal trigger guard. After cleaning the barrel and making sure the bolts were tight, we fired for accuracy and function. Today’s buyer of a genuine WWII-era or Korean War era carbine will probably need to spend around a thousand dollars, give or take a few hundred, for a reasonable example. One had a cracked op-rod. Affordable Home-Defense Rifles: AR-15 or M1 in 30 Carbine? A slight exception was the buttplate, which showed slight finish wear. It came with one new 15-round magazine that had no external military markings. The Auto-Ordnance had a somewhat sticky bolt, in that it didn’t feel clean at full withdrawal, and we could also hang it up occasionally just before it spun into the locked position. The sling was not nearly as new looking as on the other, but was fully serviceable. Two of our carbines came from the CMP, both “Service Grade.” One was an Underwood (CMP-1, $565) and the other an Inland (CMP-2, $ 495). Those who like shooting military type firearms really owe it to themselves to have an M1 carbine. From the standard issue M1 to the Paratrooper M1A1 to our 21 st Century version of the M3, every Fulton Armory M1 Carbine is truly a “rifle for life”, an heirloom to be passed down for the ages. On further inspection we found a piece was broken off the front of the extractor. James River seemed very nice too but like you said they’re discontinued. Finally we tried the rifle with U.S. Mil-Spec ball for two shots, and neither fired case made it out of the chamber. Hood Terror Attack. Like the Fulton, this one didn’t like the surplus ball ammo, with the worst group approaching 5 inches at 50 yards. That was not the case here. it would not work properly. Extraordinary. C Series Handguns; S Series Handguns; Premium Handguns. It was from Sellier & Bellot, American Eagle, and original U.S. Mil-Spec ball (head stamped LC71). Factory sent a replacement. The Auto-Ordnance carbines are produced using newly manufactured parts on high-precision computerized machinery. The "top end" quasi-rebuild is a Fulton Armory M1 Carbine. This one never did have that slick feel. The “high” sight put the shots about a foot higher, too much elevation for casual shooting. Current Production M1 Carbines: Inland vs Auto Ordnance vs Fulton Armory I'm looking to buy a current production M1 Carbine (maybe the paratrooper model) and from the research that I've done it looks some folks have had some reliability issues with … Author’s son zeros Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbine at 75 yards with Aimpoint T-1 and Speer Gold Dot ammo. The sling was new. Discussion Starter • #9 • Feb 15, 2011. Customer brought in a target and at 50 yards he was all over the place. The Parkerizing all seemed to match, except that the bolt was a touch darker. All these M1 Carbines shoot, but some shoot better than others, and IMO the Fulton Armory M1 Carbine is one that is at the top of the list. Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine Semi-Auto Rifle -The Auto-Ordnance M1 .30 Caliber carbine is produced in Kahr's state-of-the-art manufacturing plant in Worcester, MA. Later during World War II, Auto-Ordnance established its own production plant in Bridgeport, Connecticut, and produced the M1928A1, M1 and M1A1 Thompsons to augment production by Savage Arms for the military. Fulton Armory M1 Carbine … We disassembled the magazine and found lots of gritty dirt inside. Overall, we thought it would satisfy anyone short of the most stringent collector. They also offer a folding stock Paratrooper model as well. We then tried the new magazine that came with the A-O and as noted above. And no, I don't want to buy a WW2 vintage M1 carbine, as I already have one that is essentially a safe queen. The trigger, like on all four carbines, was a bit creepy but manageable. Needless to say we stopped selling these, they were slow selling for us anyway. Auto-Ordnance still makes new M1’s for around $800 and the reviews I have heard are good but I have never shot one myself. The only connection they share is that both Auto-Ordnance and Inland source most of their parts from the same handful of companies. One was the swinging-arm or “flip” type, which requires pulling a small lever rearward to put the gun into the firing position. I don't mind paying more if they are stone-cold reliable and noticeably better quality, but I don't to pay more...just to pay more. Though we had no way of measuring bore wear at the muzzle, the rifling lands came all the way to the muzzle and appeared sharp. Some slight cleaning of the stock followed by a careful application of linseed oil would bring out the walnut’s grain. Ours came with a sling, oiler, and a magazine in a heavy, well-padded cardboard box. Reproduction M1 Carbines: We Test Auto-Ordnance and Inland Manufacturing Models, 308 Win. We did this, but still the rounds failed to extract. The Auto-Ordnance carbines are produced using newly manufactured parts on high precision computerized machinery. Even the good ones will be behind the Fulton … The server has not detected any activity for the last 3 hours. According to what I have read, Kahr makes the Inland rifles. We liked the flip safety and the bayonet lug, which mated well with the adjustable sight. You can select if you want the later style of barrel band with the bayonet lug or one without (like the kind issued during the majority of WWII). (not the original Inland Mfg. The M1 Carbine is a .30 caliber Carbine primarily used by the United States during the Second World War and Korean War. It even shot the old U.S. Ball ammo well, getting groups just over 2 inches. In our testing of these four M1 carbines, we found many similarities and a few differences. Tags: .30 carbine, **, auto-ord, Auto-Ordnance, carbine, gun, inland, kahr, M1 Carbine, rifle The little M1 Carbine really is a timeless classic. Gun Tests has been independently reviewing firearms since 1989. First of all, the gun claims to be an early model replica, but it sports a "potbelly" stock. Made in huge numbers for only a few years during WWII, original Carbines have steadily become scarcer and more expensive as … The extractor, which appeared to be an investment-cast part, operated perfectly for the remainder of our limited testing. It seems to be a wonderful replication. But when you look at prices with companies like Inland Mfg. I'm looking to buy a current production M1 Carbine (maybe the paratrooper model) and from the research that I've done it looks some folks have had some reliability issues with both the Inland (not the WW2 Inland's) and AO carbines. All the guns except the Auto-Ord had the stepped, windage-adjustable rear sight. Just too many lousy reports on the new Inlands, Auto Ordnance, etc. Again the bore looked like a mirror, and the rifling was pretty sharp right out to the crown. Indeed, all parts going into Inland Manufacturing’s new iteration are compatible with U.S.G.I. Description: Up for sale is a nice(98% overall condition) Fulton Armory M1 Carbine semi-auto rifle in 30 Carbine cal. Fulton Armory M1 Carbine’s start at around $1500, but they are customizable. These included plastic covers on muzzle, bolt handle, and forend swivel. All had the wing-protected front sight. The Fulton had a milled base. The Assembled Fulton Armory M1 Carbines. The Cast steel receiver/bolt rifles are: #1) Inland Manufacturing. The Auto-Ord and Underwood also had the flat bolt, and neither of these two had a bayonet lug. As noted above, the safety was a push-button, like on your pump shotgun. I consider all my firearms to have a secondary purpose for home/farm defense, so I passed. The Cast steel receiver/bolt rifles are: #1) Inland Manufacturing. We liked this one the best of the two CMP carbines. It broke at 6.3 pounds. The more we shot the Inland the more we liked it, because it made the best groups of the four carbines. The functioning was perfect, and accuracy was about as good as any of the others. Even the butt plate was in fine condition, with excellent finish. When we pitted a range of collectible M1 carbines, we liked two affordable choices from CMP and a much pricier upgrade from Fulton Armory. On cleaning and replacing the floorplate it still didn’t fit correctly, but we were able to fully load the magazine, and then by pressing the rounds downward we heard the floorplate snap into position. Our Team Said: We could not fault the Fulton, despite its high price. Fulton Armory M1 Carbine I heard about Fulton Armory out of Savage, Maryland and after seeing their wares, I decided to bite on their M1 Service Carbine. T, K and P Series; MK and PM Series; ... Auto-Ordnance: M1 Carbine; Auto-Ordnance: M1 Carbine. The feel of the bolt was slick, though the bolt would not reliably stay open. If you are lucky, you might be able to buy a decent rifle from the CMP, or may have to spend a bit more for either a commercial one like the Auto-Ordnance, or for a decent sample from GunBroker or at a gun show, but you’ll never go wrong with the Fulton product. All the rest of the parts are genuine G.I., all tested and matched and carefully fitted as the gun is built. In our experience the company stands by its products, and their products are among the very finest in the business. A few years back I was fortunate to pick up a Springfield Armory M1 carbine receiver at Camp Perry commercial row, from Springfield. A 30-round magazine inserted into a carbine set up with the bayonet and two spare mags makes an impressive display. Auto-Ordnance still makes new M1’s for around $800 and the reviews I have heard are good but I have never shot one myself. The two CMP carbines had a stamped base for the adjustable rear sight. We believe the all-metal one would look better, and please more collectors than the one provided. This required pressing to the left to fire, which we found could not be done as easily by lefties. This is easily accomplished with the right index finger, by right handers, and fairly easily by the trigger finger of lefties. We noted a slight preference for one type of ammo over another with all the carbines, despite its all having the same general specification. Fulton Armory ~ M1 Carbine ~ .30 Carbine for sale online. This outlet used to be called the DCM, Director of Civilian Marksmanship, run by the U.S. government, but that program is now in private hands. We noted the bottom of the new magazine had an extremely poor fit. Our Team Said: There were no problems nor any surprises with this Underwood-barreled carbine. but a new company) and the M1 Carbine Paratrooper from Auto-Ordnance (A-O). We didn’t miss the sling because carbines are easy to carry, but we felt one ought to be included. You can add various accessories, including a hand guard with scope mount, extra magazines, bayonet, and many more. Each rifle has a Parkerized finish, American Walnut stock, 15 round magazine (10 rounds where required by law), 18” barrel, and flip-style rear sight. For your security, your session will expire in … No. The M1 carbine was the most prolific U.S. weapon of the WWII era, with six-odd million made, and it’s still very popular today. We do not have the box for this rifle. The finish will be crisp, clean newly done Parkerizing, and the whole thing will not only work to perfection, it won’t take a back seat to any carbine, old or new, with the possible exception of some museum specimens. Auto Ordnance Trump-3 2020 Special Edition 1911 Semi-Auto Pisto Battle Rifle Shoot Out: Century Arms C91 Vs. PTR-91. ABOUT US. We would have preferred a milled trigger guard, but the stamped/welded one was interesting. The website indicated a surplus magazine would be supplied. There’s a 30-day money-back guarantee if you are dissatisfied in any way. I didn’t want to have to fuck with that and all reports on the Fulton … Please Wait. The second safety type was the crossbolt, similar to that found on many pump shotguns. specifications by Fulton. It was a poor, tight fit. Each Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbine is a faithful reproduction of the famous military rifles that served American forces beginning in World War II. and Fulton Armory, the Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbine is probably the best bang for your buck. but a new company) and the M1 Carbine Paratrooper from Auto-Ordnance (A-O). The next down the line is a James River Armory M1 Carbine "Rock-Ola" Carbine with receivers and bolt made from billet steel, these run $1300.00 per rifle. Per the website: “The Auto-Ordnance M1 .30 Caliber carbine is produced in Kahr’s state-of-the-art manufacturing plant in Worcester, MA. Today’s Fulton carbine has a new barrel, made to G.I. If you want a sling and oiler, they are offered at $26. By comparison, Inland M1 carbines usually run about $300+ more than the Auto Ordnance, and a quality rearsenaled GI M1 carbine runs about $1200+ although cheaper ones can occasionally be found. You’ll recall that in the October 2020 issue, I cut-and-pasted almost all of then-presidential candidate Joe Biden’s gun-regulation plans listed on his website, with... Write CSS OR LESS and hit save. I was one of the Lucky 20 Raffle winners, and couldn't be happier with my prize. On the range we fired three shots with Sellier & Bellot ammunition, and then had a failure to eject the fired case fully, with the outgoing round caught by the slide. There were no surprises, nor failures of any sort. The M1 carbine (formally the United States Carbine, Caliber .30, M1) is a lightweight semi-automatic carbine that was a standard firearm for the U.S. military during World War II, the Korean War and the Vietnam War.The M1 carbine was produced in several variants and was widely used by not only the U.S. military, but by paramilitary and police forces around the world. Because the two CMP carbines came without magazines, we used an original Winchester 15-round magazine for all our testing, with one exception explained below. They’re going fast. The Auto-Ord came in a well-padded box with many little touches to preserve its lovely walnut stock. The trigger pull was not what we wanted at all. For this test we acquired four carbines. The stock had a few slight blemishes, entirely appropriate for a used military weapon, we thought. On the range we had exactly no problems with the Fulton. I can comment on the Kahr/Auto Ord guns. They use a Criterion barrel and I have one of the barrels and it shoots better than my 2-45 Inland. Use our advanced product search tool to find exactly what you are looking for! The A-O had a modern-made, two-height sight similar to the original M1 carbine sight, which had to be drifted for windage. Made in huge numbers for only a few years during WWII, original Carbines have steadily become scarcer and more expensive as the surplus reservoir accordingly declined. However, due to the nature of the program, the CMP carbines may be in very short supply by the time this report appears in print. Feed and function were perfect, with five-shot groups averaging just under two inches at 50 yards. Our Team Said: All told, this was our first choice of all the carbines, especially in light of its lowest price. Fulton Armory M1 Carbine’s start at around $1500, but they are customizable. The Fulton Armory M1 CMP Match Carbine is a restored and customized WWII carbine that meets the requirements of the Civilian Marksmanship Program for use in their military rifle M1 Carbine competitive shooting events.. Ours was fitted with the milled rear sight, and a bayonet lug. Auto-Ordnance Home; Magnum Research Home; SHOP // PRODUCTS // Handguns. It employs an anemic round by rifle standards, but—per its design—its cartridge is at least as powerful as most handgun rounds. We could barely manage to insert this new magazine into the surplus carbines. I'm on the border of getting a Fulton Arms M1 Carbine. Light, handy, plinking and home-defense rifle chambered in .30 Carbine, shooting a 110gr projectile ~1900fps out of its 18" barrel. This happened with slight variations for the next seven shots in a row. We’ve also commonly seen the two-magazine pouch on the stock. Auto-Ordnance AOM130 M1 Carbine 30 US Carbine, $899. The finish of all the metal parts was very nicely done. It’s easier to get your shots where they belong with the fully adjustable one. Quick Reply to: We had on hand a Fulton Armory carbine, with an original Underwood barrel in near-perfect condition. Through and through, Fulton’s rifle is an M1 Carbine. The so-called “Rack Grade” carbines are a bit less expensive. I never even considered anything less than a Fulton for a commercial carbine. The fit of the new A-O magazine was so poor in the receiver we had to press it hard upward and bump it firmly to engage its lugs. These included plastic covers on muzzle, bolt handle, and forend swivel. Customization: 3.5/5 We found on three websites ( Brownells.com , CheaperThanDirt.com and BudsGunShop.com ) that the Inland’s cost ranged from $999 to $992 and the A-O from $828 to $752. The website mentioned the carbine was made by Kahr Arms, and the manual that came with it seconded that information. The bolt stayed open well, about like that of the Fulton. Checking with Fulton Armory, one of the best sources for U.S. military weapons parts, accessories and refurbishing, I found they offer new production 15-round magazines, and a dozen were purchased for our tests. All of the original mil-spec barrels are apparently now gone. Auto-Ord stands by there guns though, that's what positive I can say. The edges of the stock were all quite sharp, and a crossed-cannon cartouche on the right side of the butt stock was still partly visible. Durable. This one had the flip safety, bayonet lug, and round bolt. Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine 18" 30 Carbine Parkerized 15+1rd - $740.99 with code "VTK" + S/H The Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbine, chambered in .30 carbine, is produced in Kahr's state of the art factory located in Worcester, MA. Subscribe to the newsletter to receive our latest offers. The base model is the Service Grade and it looks like the name implies—like the ones issued in late WWII and Korea. (not the original Inland Mfg. GI mag. Check their website for details. These both come with the adjustable rear sights that are a big up… Thanks. It's a new production replica (faithful re-creation) of a WWII-era M1 Carbine. Current Production M1 Carbines: Inland vs Auto Ordnance vs Fulton Armory, http://www.fulton-armory.com/m...arreled-actions.aspx. CATEGORY Company Videos; TAGS ; NEWSLETTER. It is loaded up for home self-defense. Aside from the price, I've never heard a negative thing about Fulton Armory. The walnut stock was in excellent condition, though it had apparently been refinished at some time. With the American Eagle ammo we got five-shot groups as small as 1 inch at 50 yards. Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine by SoloDallas, on Flickr Posted: 8/27/2019 4:09:42 PM EST The Fulton armory one's should work, you might have to download 1 round but that was common practice during the war You can get them with different sights, trigger mods, and they now offer a … Why it says “CAL 30 ML” instead of “CAL. We opted to test two new M1 Carbine reproductions, the M1 1945 Carbine from Inland Mfg. On testing the A-O’s loaded magazine further, we found a continued tendency for the rounds to stick within the box, thus removing all tension from the spring and rendering the magazine useless. We liked the light weight and the nice wood, but the operating smoothness was just not as good as it was with the mil-surplus carbines. Each Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbine is a faithful reproduction of the famous military rifles that served American forces beginning in World War II. The website indicated a surplus magazine would be supplied. We opted to test two new M1 Carbine reproductions, the M1 1945 Carbine from Inland Mfg. Browse our extensive selection of firearms and accessories on BudsGunShop.com. While $1300 for a carbine will open some eyes and close some pocketbooks, what you get will not require any replacement parts, or retesting, or special fitting, nor will it require a better-grade stock. Several of our team said they’d spend the extra $400 and get a Fulton Armory carbine over this one. The Auto-Ordnance and Underwood (CMP-1) carbines had the push-button safety. If I had my choice between an Auto Ordnance and Fulton(money being no issue),no experience with a carbine and don`t trust what people are putting together in the basement, I definitely would go with the Fulton Armory rifle. If you’re strapped for cash, the ATI Firepower Xtreme is … Customization: 3.5/5 Generally speaking, here’s what we think. The Auto Ordnance is a hit or miss build. We tested with three types of 30 US Carbine FMJ “ball” ammunition, all of it 110-grain loads. Rather than declare the Auto-Ordnance carbine a failure, we contacted the manufacturer and sent the bolt in for a replacement extractor. Good ones need not break the bank, but in an era where the SKS rifles that used to go begging at gun shows for $85 now bring upwards of $400, the price of an M1 carbine is not outlandish, even at the over-a-grand mark. This website contains many older reviews. I can recall three being brought back in with issues. (U.S. Government Issue) examples made by Winchester, the original Inland division of General Motors, Rock-Ola, IBM, and others. ↩ ∞ ... Auto-ordinance has a … The new Inland M1 Carbine (discussed on Wednesday’s blog article) is a true copy of the original M1 Carbines manufactured during World War II. Neither came with the package. Turnaround was extremely fast, and with the new extractor in the rifle we tried our tests again. The little A-O carbine delivered the finest accuracy we’ve encountered from an M1 carbine or clone thereof. Details on the four guns we tested follow: The Auto-Ord came in a well-padded box with many little touches to preserve its lovely walnut stock. The "top end" quasi-rebuild is a Fulton Armory M1 Carbine. These semi automatic M1 Carbines are produced using newly manufactured parts on Do you qualify for a CMP firearm purchase? Fulton Armory M1 Service Carbine * Fulton Armory M3 Scout Carbine * Fulton Armory M3 Scout Carbine 16-T * Fulton Armory CMP M1 Match Carbine * Barrelled Actions. Markings include the following: `Auto-Ordnance, Worcester, MA’ behind the rear sight; `U.S. Carbine, Cal 30 ML’ on the receiver in front of the bolt, and the serial number is engraved on the left side of the receiver.”. May we present, 70 years later, the Fulton Armory M1 Carbine. That hang-up disappeared with slight wearing-in of the parts. Thank you GOAL and Kahr Arms / Auto-Ordnance for all you do. 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An option for a slightly more affordable Fulton Armory carbine is to buy one of their barreled actions, which come with a headspaced bolt, and then assemble the rest using surplus USGI parts. Consequently, the U.S. Army realized that rear echelon troops, officers and NCOs would need a weapon that offered more fighting capability than the M1911 pistol with which many were armed, yet was handier than the M1 Garand main battle rifle. These are excellent rifles but cost $1600.00 for each sample. You’re paying for the careful hand fitting done by the folks at Fulton Armory, and you can take that to the bank. Safe. However, I haven't come across anyone with any issues concerning the Fulton armory carbines, but the Fulton carbines are about twice as expensive as the AO and Inland carbines. Also, Fulton has a full line of M1 carbine parts, if you should need anything to repair your own. Finally, we acquired a new Auto-Ordnance AOM130 M1 Carbine ($899) with beautiful walnut stock and newly manufactured metalwork. Tags: .30 carbine, **, auto-ord, Auto-Ordnance, carbine, gun, inland, kahr, M1 Carbine, rifle The little M1 Carbine really is a timeless classic. Taking the CMP requirements straight from the website, “By law, the CMP can sell surplus military firearms, ammunition, parts and other items only to members of CMP-affiliated clubs who are also U.S. citizens, over 18 years of age and… legally eligible to purchase a firearm.” For more information, visit the website. All the other carbine bolts felt like they were sliding on glass. The flawless walnut stock had a linseed-oil finish. Auto-Ordnance uses original flip-type rear sight. Three mil-spec surplus magazines fit the A-O perfectly. La carabina M1 (formalmente chiamata United States Carbine, Caliber .30, M1) è un'arma semiautomatica semplice e leggera in calibro .30 usata dalle forze statunitensi durante la Seconda guerra mondiale e poi rimasta in servizio fino alla Guerra del Vietnam.La produzione variò nel corso degli anni con modelli nuovi e rivisitazioni che l'hanno resa molto popolare anche tra i civili. When we tried to load the magazine, its follower stuck, leaving the rounds loose, with no spring tension. It was the heaviest of the lot at 7 pounds. Auto-Ordnance produced different prototypes for military rifle trials in the 1920s and for the .30 carbine trials in the early 1940s but these were not adopted by the military. Fulton Armory offers four different models of the M1 Carbine.