Kangen water is sold through a network of multi-level marketers (MLM). Due to the Christmas holiday, I missed the email. I hope that isn't hard to access because I've been in the no-insurance spot before, but it's gotta be less expensive than the woo water machine. e) Watering the plants – help plants reaming fresh, induce seed germination and seed development. $4000 a unit. AquaGreen Alkaline Water Ionizer Machine AG7.0, PH 3.5-10.5 Water Purifier, Multifunctional Water Filtration System for Home, Up to -500mV ORP, 6000L Per Filter, Auto-Cleaning, Silver 4.1 out of … My friend has not talked to her in years. Articles I research don't seem like enough and I'm not well versed in science that well. Does he use Spanish any? Why is it important to have this machine in the first place? Kangen Water® is delicious water created from Enagic's innovative water technology. Every teardown of "miracle electronics" so far ("power savers" and "pest repellers" for example) has concluded that, beyond the circuits that make the LEDs and any screens light up, the rest of the device is empty space or naively wired components that don't make up a functional circuit or simply stuff that doesn't do anything of the things it claims to do. From my understanding, changing the pH of water in a certain way, basically makes it basic and taste sour. His was a new machine when bought though. Recently, I found out my Dad was using some "water medicine" and I obviously was very concerned. Low and behold, tap water, Kangen water, and Kangen waste water all have the same pH. I'm happy to hear that you'll be tossing it out. We went to my aunt's house today and after I left the washroom, my dad showed me along with my Aunt the Kangen water machine. Rational arguments against the MLM business model, Examples of business or mathematical delusion, Boundary-crossing, predatory relationship abuse. This Hun is something else. Alkaline is alkaline. It's easier to try and apply non-specific generalizations to everything (like the naturalistic fallacy) and accept it as gospel because accepting that we don't understand some things is scary, and learning the technical material is hard. I’m absolutely livid, but nothing I’m saying gets through to him. According t… i just turned down my first hun from middle school and i felt pure joy, The hair follicle doesn't need to “wake up”, It’s you, bitch. This only resulted in "Well, it just needs to go in for maintenance". Health/Beauty Of course, I had my fair deal with these "miracle cures" and I wanted to do my research first because this was feeling a bit off. This creates fresh-tasting and naturally high pH-balanced water that is safe for us to drink. Denial... What a great way to convince urself that u r right... 😑, [–]future_lookinggood 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (0 children). Oh girl, Ill be honest I didnt real all of this yet but im proud of your level of skepticism at your age. Never again. Sandeep Singh Web Designer | WordPress Developer … 145 likes. I looked online and found various articles and pictures of Kangen being a supposed MLM and scam, and that the water didn't do anything. • Keep "In the Wild" posts for Wednesday's stickied thread, • Children's faces must be blurred/censored when posting. (I apologize for any grammar or science I got wrong, I'm still learning and I'm very tired today), [–]DarrenFromFinance 21 points22 points23 points 2 years ago (2 children). The MLM Review, a website designed for providing company reviews, cites that the Japanese Association for Preventative Medicine for Adult Disease considers the company that produces Kangen water to be the leader in water purification. He is trying anything he can to feel better, younger, and healthier. Source: processed their orders for almost a year. https://youtu.be/MVWF025aqT0. The sellers have a tendency to frequently use the word "hun" when initiating a sales pitch. My dad is absolutely convinced that Kangen water is effective, despite me showing home MULTIPLE articles disproving him. User account menu. Alkaline water is actually really bad for you because the water is chemically changed by just adding sodium bicarbonate and things like that to turn it alkaline. They actually patented their own system and are the only business that uses it. Rightly so! I looked online and found various articles and pictures of Kangen being a supposed MLM and scam, and that the water didn't do anything. No matter what, we can tell you've got a good head on your shoulders from how you're handling this! Report this profile Experience ENAGIC INDIA KANGEN WATER PVT.LTD MLM View sandeep’s full profile See who you know in common Get introduced Contact sandeep directly Join to view full profile Others named sandeep singh. Where do MLMs manufacture their products? Posted by 2 years ago. A pH of above 7 but below 8 is usually what you see for chlorinated pool water. The water ionizer involves moving regular tap water through a process of ionization. Help/AdviceHow To Prove Kangen Water Isn't Legit And An MLM?! Here’s a start. Distributors normally buy pH drops from the company to do their demos and if you go on their website, you'll see the disclaimer that it doesn't work with some of the pH testers. This is NOT just an alkaline water machine and if you are paying big bucks for just an alkaline water machine, then yes, I agree you are being scammed, I will also add since it's in this subforum, that kangen does not operate on a MLM system. Chlorine Bleach in 3%-5% solution (the kind you buy for laundry) has a pH of something like 10 to 11. Side note: While you are not wrong that Ph changes hydrangeas colors, you aren’t entirely right! It’s supposed to convert the “acidic water” which we usually drink into alkaline water which can cure all sorts of diseases. Posts that attack someone's appearance, unrelated beliefs (e.g. Product Line. So talk to him privately, show evidence of people being scammed by this, and then help him find a plausible reason to deny the offer, ie he needs to talk to his wife first and get her approval, doctor says kangen water can affect his existing medication (hey, if they're making false claims, then so can you lol), you're tight on money, you'll contact them about it at another time etc. It has the feeling as though it is being absorbed directly by the tissue inside your mouth. He looked at my arm, then ran to a bowl and started dabbing water onto my skin and I was extremely confused. Ex: “Hey hun ❤️❤️ I see your aunt is dying 😱😱 anyway hun 😊💁‍♀️ wanna buy my oils it’s good for stress 😍😘😘” courtesy u/fiestaspongebob. Most people don't accept what they don't understand about chemistry and physiology and don't accept that there's some of it none of us understand yet. [–]chillwavexI am a MLM shill 😒 -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (0 children). 28 comments. They told me they got theirs at 50% off but it’s still ~$2000 and is completely ridiculous. MIL is not. Long time lurker, but this hits close to home. I'll see if I can find the article and I'll edit my post (sorry I'm on mobile). Does it use (expensive I assume) consumables like tablets? It’s not clear to me why people suddenly believe drinking these highly alkaline solutions is good or healthy. Close. From my understanding, changing the pH of water in a certain way, basically makes it basic and taste sour. But I don’t think it has any positive health benefits. If you google “is alkaline water a scam” you’ll find more information than you know what to do with. My best friend is involved with Kangen Water, swears by it, keeps trying to explain to me how it isn’t a scam. I’m Australian, and when I looked at Enagic’s Kangen water machines via Global Affiliate Zone, I was skeptical. You know as well as I, that the Kangen believers will cast doubt and skepticism over my "so called science". I have a friend who’s asthma is improving, one friend who had a serious kidney infection and no longer has it because of this water, and my acid reflux went away just from this water. I decide to order pH testing strips. The new distributor is encouraged not only to sell the product, but to sign up other people below them so that they can make even more money. [–]DarrenFromFinance 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). This is NOT just an alkaline water machine and if you are paying big bucks for just an alkaline water machine, then yes, I agree you are being scammed. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. “The Kangen promoters have gone to some lengths to present their product as scientific, borrowing real and impressive sounding terms from physics and chemistry. Multi-level marketing makes things more expensive. In reality, their color changes based on how much aluminum they take in. Maybe even reaching out a an adult you both know and trust that would be on your side here who could advocate for you would be worth the trouble. 1. I actually have a Kangen water machine and I’ve had amazing benefits. My parents have one of these machines. Share and read over at r/MLMstories, Marvel at awful fashion choices at r/LuLaNo, Cringe away at some fab-tabulous makeup application at r/Youniqueamua. 2. How will you finance the machine, is there a warranty of some sort? Check out r/MLMRecovery, Tired of memes and looking for MLM stories and rants only? Filter changes twice a year cost $120/filter, cleaning powder $25/big tub, deep clean done at the office once a year $40/clean, repairs often times aren't covered by warranty and completely void for used machines, "salt water" to make "strong acidic" water is $4/small bottle. The machines quite simply are priced really high, making people stop in their tracks and start researching. Is Enagic Kangen Water Business An MLM or A Pyramid Scheme? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. ", Use the Search Button or Check this Post. It's a linear based system vs a pyramid, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I started to explain how she needed to look at the strips and compare them to each other as well as the rubric (color guideline). Alkaline water is a scam, and Kangen water is a scam. These can be physical products or services. These waters can be used for various purposes, including drinking, cooking, beauty, and … Its participants either build the pyramid taller, or get squashed by it. kangen machine generates 7 types of water that we need daily. Arbonne hun says your bank account will be in the negative if you don't jump in the biz! You should do a post with pictures of your results! With the covid crisis, her mom has moved out of her house and in with us as her roommate/other daughter was working the COVID-19 unit at her hospital. You're missing the whole point of the machine. I first got an email about this back in late December of 2011. Kangen water is ALKALIZED through a molecular change by electrically charging the water. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Multi Level Marketing (MLM) schemes are a drain on our society. I have drank the water, and yes it taste different and is easier to drink. (think drinking from a water hose or a balloon) Having tried kangen water once, I was blown away by how liquid the water felt on my tongue. What does Enagic sell?Enagic sells alkaline ionizers and water filtration machines that transform your tap water into electrolyzed-reduced and hydrogen-rich drinking water. I just looked into enagic and kangen and found this: “To get started, you have to purchase one of their purification systems for around $4,000. I asked if there were any credible scientists to back these claims up or if she read the articles I sent her on Facebook disputing the water. Guess they all went broke with their expensive as fuck bullshit machines. I don't care. © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Hi, I'm a 13 year old girl and not well versed in chemistry though I try my best to be skeptical and love researching. Kangen water is made from the Kangen water ionizer system sold by Enagic. I begged them not to sell them. It's embarrassing when you realize that you've been scammed. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. To whom it may concern: I am absolutely disgusted on a regular basis by the number of people in here hyping the 'molecular hydrogen institute' (as if it is some kind of legitimate scientific organization - it is not), Kangen water (which is a worthless MLM scam), alkaline water, water ionizers, and a whole host of other water scams and pseudoscience. He started telling me all the benefits which I think was a push to start trying it, he started to tell me that the water from taps and the water we filtered isn't truly clean and that Kangen was the best. My first ever encounter with it was when I walked up to him with severe eczema that was visible on my skin, I was trying to ask something but I can't remember. [–]chillwavexI am a MLM shill 😒 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (1 child). I don’t block her simply because she’s a hoot. If you add a tiny spoon to a gallon of water, you can raise the pH to 7.5 or 8 (I don’t think your water probably has a pH of 8, by the way, it’s not clear to me you are reading the strips correctly, because the top two squares don’t match up… there is another legend probably on the back of the strips showing the more acidic pH levels you may be missing). Unfortunately, I can't guarantee that any of this will work, my only suggestion is to appeal to his emotional side - $4000 is a lot of moneu. Archived. (Delete if This isn’t allowed) there’s no effing difference in your eyebrows, Hun! Raising the PH of the water is NOT THE POINT and if you think it is, then you need to actually research it and what it does. Multi Level Marketing (MLM) schemes are a drain on our society. Personally I don’t like drinking swimming pool water. If you're looking for hard evidence you can check out Google scholar for different studies. Please help me, thank you so much for reading! The Kangen machine is capable of reaching a pH of 10, without chemicals, which is fine for daily consumption. My aunt started spewing the same nonsense about it being good for you, and saying "It doesn't cure eczema but it can treat it! Here’s Why: MLM: MLM (Multi-Level Marketing) is a business model wherein distributors earn commission from their own sales, as well as a percentage from the sales of their downlines. KanGen Water Legok, Kota Tangerang. With Enagic’s business model, once you purchase a product as a distributor, you are a distributor for life. How To Prove Kangen Water Isn't Legit And An MLM?! First, it’s made alkaline by charging the water with electricity, which also adds antioxidants which reduce oxidation and inflammation in the body, and it makes the molecules of the water a lot smaller. You only changed your pencil shade. They were convinced by a family friend who jumps from one MLM to another. I still call this a win. Our service technician said it's a glorified brita filter. 519 likes. [–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 2 years ago (2 children), By the way, my Dad is Filipino so he doesn't understand English too well. However the more time goes on the more I continue to see Alkaline Water being available everywhere I look. In aluminum poor soils, no matter the Ph, they cannot turn blue. My wife got suckered in to buying a used Kangen water machine from her mom of all people. Logic typically doesn't solve a problem that was caused illogically. 29 talking about this. and join one of thousands of communities. Its participants either build the pyramid taller, or get squashed by it. d) Soups and stews – Kangen water draw the best taste of soups and stews without adding much spices or ingredients. It’s a huge difference. But I haven't heard of this before and was interested and I wouldn't wholly trust Dr. Oz but he had a but on it that was good. [–]straight_tm 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). Bleach is not good for you. She immediately begins her bullshit stories of Kangen water this and Kangen water that. *Kangen Water* is delicious water created from Enagic's innovative water technology. I will also add since it's in this subforum, that kangen does not operate on a MLM system. This is why sometimes if you have a potted hydrangea with store bought soil it won’t turn blue; the soil doesn’t have aluminum. Water normally has a pH of around 7 (this is neutral). My mom was nearly roped into buying one of those things as well, and what I did was I literally read out an article to her about how a woman was scammed by this alkaline water while she worked around the house. But I will be showing him this, so thank-you! My area of "expertise" I guess - I worked for their office processing orders for almost a year (don't judge, I needed a job. Kangen water review, is it a scam or legit? Another kind user pointed out it has more to do with the aluminum content in the soil! Then they add insult to injury by trying to get you to become a sales rep! courtesy u/copacetic1515, People who shill products/services for an MLM. I just came across this today and I swear we have the same issue!! Kangen Global. I doubt the water actually does any effects and that my aunt and Dad are just feeling the placebo effect. • No Posts About Product Quality/Use of Products, • AMAs & Youtube Videos Must Be Authorized By the Mod Team, • Posts involving promotion of any product/website/service/personal social media pages will be removed. Close to it. It's obvious that they're not listening to the scientific evidence you provide them. They actually patented their own system and are the only business that uses it. So I start using the wastewater from the unit to push my hydrangeas a different color. I just suggest to make the proof/advice easy to swallow and not condescending :')), [–]OneFrazzledEngineer 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children), Aww, my boyfriend's mother is from the Phillipines too. Kangen Water MLM Review imageYou will find that when you visit Enagic’s website, there is absolutely no information pertaining to the details of joining as a Distributor. Enagic’s Business Model Is Neither An MLM Nor A Pyramid Scheme. Each time, I got a question, I thought I should write an article, but something came up and it got shuffled down the priority list. Hun didn't want to pay my product review fee and got sassy with me. I wasn't selling anything and tried to talk people out of it when no one else saw me). While Enagic is an MLM, it’s not a traditional MLM. • Mods reserve the right to remove posts, remove comments and ban users at our own discretion. Obviously it’s not just the hydrogen here, there is a bunch of chlorine in bleach (and even a small amount in tap water) so it’s not a direct comparison, but I just don’t understand this recent obsession. Beware of the new coming Kangen Water. No, but it's really hard for you to build good residual income without massive recruiting. Log In Sign Up. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. uwu" which I don't know how accurate it is, but after searching through this Subreddit I'm 100% is false. Kangen is full of controversy and their machines cost a small fortune but is it worth it? She said didn't read them or state any scientists, she basically kept telling me all these benefits and saying how the "beauty" setting on the machine made her face feel better to try to convince me to try it. Kangen means, “Return to origin”. When you talk to your dad, talk to him by yourself, try not to rope other people in. In my family I would need proof to get anyone to believe me and I am 29... And even then they will turn to the "no I still just don't believe you!" Sure enough, my coffee is more acidic than tap water. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. You can pause or quit your business whenever you want; at the same time, you can also come back to it whenever you want. Can you find out who will he buy the machine from? What are Enagic’s most popular products?Enagic sells just eight water filtration machines, each at a different price point and for different uses, along with the filters and supplies you’ll need to use them. Income Disclosure Analysis Master Thread here. Dank antiMLM related memes, gifs and shitposts only. 79. You're right about them not working as they claim they are. [–]chillwavexI am a MLM shill 😒 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children). I’ve sat and shown him articles and papers about how it doesn’t actually have any of the benefits they state and I just can’t get through to him. Having a good water filter works just as well. He tells me to look up Kangen water’s official website (lmao of course the kangen water website will be filled with bullshit). "LulaHoe") will be removed. Eventually, we went to the dollar store together, I bought a couple notebooks and once we went back into the car I saw there was a water bottle inside the dollar store bag. Update: My MIL, without looking at the testing strips or rubric, said "Oh ya, they are supposed to be purple". Originally posted this video of his the first week of May, shared it a couple days later, and uploaded it again today. Enagic is a company that sells the Kangen water machines using the MLM / network marketing business model. you could also google “kangen water scam” for more specific information. It's your money. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 30365 on r2-app-0dae9daec205724b1 at 2021-02-25 10:22:27.849628+00:00 running b1d2781 country code: US. Enagic®’s MLM sales force has to overhype Kangen Water® because of its price. Nothing seems to be remotely happening, which defies logic and science (pH changes for hydrangeas will force blooms either blue or red depending on the soil pH). Ok, read it now; you definitely need a doctor for your skin issues if they're getting to be problematic. [–]OneFrazzledEngineer 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago* (0 children). Always sharing how the “9.5 PH” level water is the best. Your body can't tell the difference. Sandeep Singh. To strike up a conversation I asked what the bottle was for, because we had bottles at home. If it's someone close to your family, unfortunately even if you've convinced your dad, it's a lot harder for him to say no to them. The PH level of the water it creates is just a side affect of the reduction process. Fortunately she came here early enough that she's fluent in English but I know we have the worst language to learn second. Whatever. Also, explanations of how the water doesn't work and educating me would be a great help! I'm planning on a live demo with the MIL. We live in a place where tap water is perfectly drinkable. There were kangen water stands all over town here outside most supermarkets, that was a year ago and there has been no mention of it for ages..
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